Comments on: To Austin we trip… http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/ Laughing in Fly-Over Land Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:46:42 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: JABbering Stooge :: Q: What’s the First Rule of Creationist Quote Mining? :: January :: 2009 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-8636 JABbering Stooge :: Q: What’s the First Rule of Creationist Quote Mining? :: January :: 2009 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:23:35 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-8636 [...] IQ is Two Standard Deviants Deviations Above the Mean” Springer. (Oh, sweet Zombie Jesus, he lives here in Austin!) As is typical for the IDiot movement, he decides to quote mine the late Stephen Jay Gould in [...] [...] IQ is Two Standard Deviants Deviations Above the Mean” Springer. (Oh, sweet Zombie Jesus, he lives here in Austin!) As is typical for the IDiot movement, he decides to quote mine the late Stephen Jay Gould in [...]

]]> By: blipey http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-2340 blipey Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:10:20 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-2340 Well, it's NEXT month. But I emailed him nd he has yet to respond, so I don't think he's up for Monday the 14th either. We'll see. Well, it’s NEXT month. But I emailed him nd he has yet to respond, so I don’t think he’s up for Monday the 14th either. We’ll see.

]]> By: Rich http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-2323 Rich Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:41:19 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-2323 Blipey. Did you survive? Blipey. Did you survive?

]]> By: Rich http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1914 Rich Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:12:48 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1914 He's up for monday. Check out FTKs blog. He’s up for monday. Check out FTKs blog.

]]> By: blipey http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1803 blipey Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:46:28 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1803 Interesting that he wouldn't leave the message here, me not banning anyone and all. Oh well, habits die hard I suppose. Interesting that he wouldn’t leave the message here, me not banning anyone and all. Oh well, habits die hard I suppose.

]]> By: blipey http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1802 blipey Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:45:31 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1802 Well, I left a message at FTK's that said I was willing to meet him on Saturday or Monday. We'll see if there's an excuse for those dates as well. Though I accept Mother's Day as a perfectly valid reason for not meeting me. Well, I left a message at FTK’s that said I was willing to meet him on Saturday or Monday. We’ll see if there’s an excuse for those dates as well. Though I accept Mother’s Day as a perfectly valid reason for not meeting me.

]]> By: Rich http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1770 Rich Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:15:40 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1770 Sorry Blipster, he's "not available" http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=SP;f=14;t=1274;p=55349 check out FtKs blog. Sorry Blipster, he’s “not available”

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=SP;f=14;t=1274;p=55349

check out FtKs blog.

]]> By: blipey http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1661 blipey Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:23:40 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1661 No problem slp, I usually prefer content over anything else--unless the something else is super funny. As for Joe not addressing the reason for my visit: he doesn't have any of the proof. We (myself, Zachriel, others) once asked him what scientists he had humiliated as claimed on his blog. He told us he wouldn't tell us unless we came to his house. Of course he just said that to cover up his not having debated any scientists. Stupid people don't often think past the current step. They don't realise that one of the hallmarks of intelligence is planning, thinking ahead. No problem slp, I usually prefer content over anything else–unless the something else is super funny.

As for Joe not addressing the reason for my visit: he doesn’t have any of the proof. We (myself, Zachriel, others) once asked him what scientists he had humiliated as claimed on his blog. He told us he wouldn’t tell us unless we came to his house. Of course he just said that to cover up his not having debated any scientists. Stupid people don’t often think past the current step. They don’t realise that one of the hallmarks of intelligence is planning, thinking ahead.

]]> By: slp http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1629 slp Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:17:52 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1629 Sorry for the extra posts - One thing we have to remember is that the interpretation of the outcome of a 'debate' by a creationist is almost always substantially different than reality suggests. Joe may well believe that he 'won' all these debates, while in reality all those observing the debate would declare him a sound loser. One of Joe's old pals, electrical engineer creationist Fred Williams and I were 'discussing' molecular phylogenetics several years ago, and Williams boasted that he preferred debating PhD holding scientists so that it would be more impressive when he beat them - this occurred while we were debating his claim that "informed evos" know that SNPs are removed from DNA sequences prior to performing phylogenetic analyses. I explained repeatedly that this was not so, but Williams claimed victory. Then, a PhD geneticist informed Williams that I was "running circles around" him and he did "not even know it". Williams balked, again declaring himslef 'winner.' That is what these people do. This is how their minds work. I don't know if it is a conscious thing to 'sway' the ignorant, or if they truly believe it. Sorry for the extra posts –

One thing we have to remember is that the interpretation of the outcome of a ‘debate’ by a creationist is almost always substantially different than reality suggests.

Joe may well believe that he ‘won’ all these debates, while in reality all those observing the debate would declare him a sound loser.

One of Joe’s old pals, electrical engineer creationist Fred Williams and I were ‘discussing’ molecular phylogenetics several years ago, and Williams boasted that he preferred debating PhD holding scientists so that it would be more impressive when he beat them – this occurred while we were debating his claim that “informed evos” know that SNPs are removed from DNA sequences prior to performing phylogenetic analyses. I explained repeatedly that this was not so, but Williams claimed victory. Then, a PhD geneticist informed Williams that I was “running circles around” him and he did “not even know it”.
Williams balked, again declaring himslef ‘winner.’

That is what these people do. This is how their minds work. I don’t know if it is a conscious thing to ’sway’ the ignorant, or if they truly believe it.

]]> By: slp http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1628 slp Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:09:50 +0000 http://clowninginthemidwest.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/to-austin-we-trip/#comment-1628 Funny that Joe G did not address these issues: Remember that we agreed that it should include: 1. the names of scientists you have debated 2. topics that you humiliated them on 3. dates and locations that these whippings took place Funny that Joe G did not address these issues:

Remember that we agreed that it should include:

1. the names of scientists you have debated

2. topics that you humiliated them on

3. dates and locations that these whippings took place

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